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    Warrior Deeps Big Manly Guide LvL 60 ONLY

    DPS QUOTA IS BASED ON lvl 62 dummy, Solo with no consumables, 5 min parses with lvl 60 epic Raid Tier 1 gear.

    As usual, no explaination will be given how all this magical way of playing come in to existence.

    To follow the trend where all the idiots like to name their unoriginal specs with stupid names, hereby I claim all the naming rights to the following spec by giving them an unique name, suck it.

    LAST UPDATED “5-11-2012”

    LVL 60 only

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    #1 SSSTMDR1
    48 WL//28 Par//0 Temp

    Rotation:
    BS X RW TS X RW SB X! ES BB X KOTH BB X RW
    KF X RW BB X RW SB X! ES BB X KOTH [BB X RW]


    DPS Quota 14000

    Ability Listing:
    TS = tactical surge
    RW = rising waterfall
    BS = battle surge
    ES = empowering strike
    SB = shifting blades
    KOTH = King of the Hill
    FL! = flurry and wait half a second before doing anything.
    X = piercing thrust + wave of steel
    X! = delayed input on X
    BB = breaking blow
    KF = killing fields
    [ ] = replace with FL! every 2 cycles to regen energy.

    Note: input on X! should be around 50% in to the GCD after SB is activated.
    GOOD LUCK !

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    #2 SSMTRDR2
    41 WL//35 Temp//0 Reav (RANGED)

    DEAD
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    #3 SPSTMDR2
    61 Para / 12 RB / 3 temp

    Rotation: Under Construction

    DPS Quota: 11500 (not changed).

    Ability listing:
    Sli = Strike like iron
    Fs = flamespear
    Rw = Rising waterfall
    Fb = fiery burst
    DT = death touch
    OS = open the stream
    SB = shifting blades
    RHİ = Reaping harvest with combat focus
    SM = setting moon
    RH = Reaping harvest
    SS = swift strike
    SP = shock pulse

    *This variant should still work*
    Bonus: 51 Para // 25 Champ // 0 Reav (Must have 1 VOJ every 2 minute to maintain)

    Rotation:
    SLI DT RW RH SM RW SB BR RW
    SLI SO RW RH SS RW RH SM RW
    SLI SS RW SB BR RW RH SO RW

    DPS Quota: 11750

    Extra Ability listing:
    SO = soul sickness
    BR = bull rush

    Note: Apply Mark manually
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    #4 SRSTRDR1
    51 RB/25 Temp/0 para

    Ranged Rotation:
    ST FS SP FB SP RI CP IB LT IB
    ST FS SP FB RI SP CP IB SP SP RI IB

    DPS Quota: 11000

    Melee Rotation:
    ST FS RS FB FS SP CP IB LT IB
    ST FS RS FB FS SP CP IB SP SP SP IB RI IB

    DPS Quota: 12250

    Ability Listing
    SP = shock pulse
    FS = Flame spear
    FB = fiery burst
    CP = Charged Pulse
    ST = stone spear
    IB = icy burst
    RI = Rift implosion
    SS = Soul sickness
    LT = lightning torrent

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    #5 STSTMDR1
    51 Reav/21 pala/4 vk (Tank Gear DPS)

    Rotation
    PS SS NW IN AB RS FR BF EIF CC
    PS SS NW IN AB RS FR BF EIF DC

    DPS Quota: 4000

    Ability listing:
    PS = pacifying strike
    SS = soul sickness
    NW = necrotic wounds
    IN = infestation
    DB = dire blow
    AB = aggressive block
    FR = flesh rot
    BF = blood fever
    EIF = explosive infestation
    CC = creeping corruption
    DC = dire corruption
    RS = ravaging strike

    Note: Mitigation stuff prioritized, replace DB with ravaging strike if u feel like doing the debuff.

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    #6 SCMTMDV3
    61 Champ/15 Par

    ST Rotation
    BR RW THS DS PB SS RW TS(P) DS PB
    BR RW THS DS PB SS RW TS DS PB

    DPS Quota: 7500

    AOE Rotation #1: (5 target)
    THS SS MB TS(P) DS COD CB
    THS SS MB TS DS DB BR RW PB DS

    DPS Quota: 37500

    Ability Listing:
    BR = bull rush
    SS = savage sweep
    BF = blade fury
    DS = disruptpive strike
    THS = thunderous strike
    PB = punishing blow
    TS(P) = Titan strike with proper timing
    MB = mighty blow
    DB = death blossom
    CB = Cornered Beast
    COD = chain of death

    Note: Apply Mark manually

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    #7 SRMTMDR2
    61 RB / 15 Temp / 0 Reav

    Rotation:
    ST FS RS FB FS RI SP IB SS SS SS IB RI IB (with my ping on Beta the RI always go off on time)

    Dps Quota: 11000

    Aoe Rotation:
    ST FS RST FIN RSP TS TS FIN TS TS TS RIS
    ST FS RST FIN TS TS TS FIN TS TS TS FIN

    Dps Quota: 30000 (5 target)

    Ability Listing:
    SP = shock pulse
    SS = soul sickness
    RST = rift strike
    FB = fiery burst
    ST = stone spear
    RI = rift implosion
    FS = flame spear
    IB = icy burst
    RSP = rift spear
    FR = frost strike
    LT = lightning torrent
    (F) = Fork
    TS = thunder strike
    FIN = Stormburst + earth burst
    RIS = rift storm

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    #8
    51+ Tempest:

    Seems got improved recently.

    Rotation: Under construction

    DPS Quota: 10000
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    Have you by chance parsed 58rb/16temp/2reav? I'm curious as to if taking 2 point into planar attunement will make it parse respectable.

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    41 warlord = new 2 points into paragon for SLI

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    Thanks for the info Sharogy. Your builds are always appreciated. I am a little depressed of no real viable level 60 build for Tempest

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    It's too bad getting 51 WL for +15% crit chance and +5% crit damage means you can't get Weapon Master, as that's a pretty big boost for just 3 points. Oh well.

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    i think you already noticed and don't use the video for your dps parse but it's seem that you are hitting the second dummy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayeran View Post
    i think you already noticed and don't use the video for your dps parse but it's seem that you are hitting the second dummy
    The Quota is Accurate, duplicated hits has already been taken in to consideration.
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    ok thank you

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    So our best ST dps spec we need to use sword and board... something about that doesn't seem right.
    Kaybye - Tabula Rasa - 11/11 (Conq), 8/8 ID (Conq) - Still Only raiding 9 hours a week.

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    I am 95 % sure it was not the case before the adjustement that have benn made to balance souls at level 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaybye View Post
    So our best ST dps spec we need to use sword and board... something about that doesn't seem right.
    Yeah, because Everything is a Weapon according to TRION.

    Not really looking forward to this change? *shrugs* 50/50

    Didn't exactly roll a DPS Class to wield a shield. I kinda believe in the aspect of "All out DPS" rather than "Wielding Armor for Defense" to DPS. This kinda kills it, now you have armor, and you DPS, makes no sense...

    And the Bull Rush being what it is now, is just a recipe for disaster to have Bull Rush in every rotation where viable... Do I really have to walk backwards/jump back and Bull Rush just to deal more damage? That's just butt ugly and stupid. Of course unless you had a sexy *** and some pink cow pants, that's okay.

    C'mon TRION! I know this is not final, but I hope someone's reading these guides. Props to you Sharogy for doing all this. Would love to help you, but I'm not a level 60. Will do what I can for now.

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    Koth??

    I see King of the Hill is part of the regular rotation. That knocks back the target 15m. I know bosses are immune to KB, but someone is going to use this on something that isn't immune and everyone else is going to be upset. Especially, if it gets knocked back into more mobs.

    Test dummies don't get knocked back, so this wouldn't be obvious in this test. Can you just skip KOTH and have a decent rotation or is there an alternative to sub in? Or, is there some other buff/ability that cancels the KB portion that I missed?

    Thurfor

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    It's followed by a pull right afterwards, so on trash there's only a small period of melee not hitting them. But yes, would be highly annoying on said trash, but I also think for that you can just not use it, bosses you can go to town on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond View Post
    It's followed by a pull right afterwards, so on trash there's only a small period of melee not hitting them. But yes, would be highly annoying on said trash, but I also think for that you can just not use it, bosses you can go to town on.
    Yeah....push/pull (imagine if you had multiple people in this spec doing trash) seems bad. And in the videos he's using Defensive posture (I assume for the 5% armor boost to EIW). General's orders will not only pull 5 mobs to you, but force them to attack you if you have Defensive or Recovery Posture up (the video shows DP up). You'd have to use Eye of the Storm on the Boss to avoid that, but if the boss has any adds, you're going to land them in your lap.

    I know the spec is based on ports, charges, and pulls, but it's got a ton of non-macro abilities and some moves that affect everyone. Mistakes in rotation (esp, if it's a disconnect kind of battle) are going to happen.

    I'd be curious, if you can get close to the same DPS without GO, KOTH, and probably SO.

    Thurfor

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    Surely u can just turn off ur defensive posture and lose 5% armor, not gonna kill ya, i remember rogues used to aoe knock back all the time, dont see ppl QQ on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharog View Post
    Surely u can just turn off ur defensive posture and lose 5% armor, not gonna kill ya, i remember rogues used to aoe knock back all the time, dont see ppl QQ on that.
    People complain about Crossfire all the damn time!

    But yes, just turn off Defensive Posture. It won't lower your damage THAT much.

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    Most raid mobs can't be pulled in or knocked back anyways so that's a moot point. Sharogy comes up with these weird specs that pull amazing numbers , but in reality I don't really see it getting used all that much.

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    If it is the top ST dps spec I am sure it will get used plenty. Shame it is just another gimicky spec.
    Kaybye - Tabula Rasa - 11/11 (Conq), 8/8 ID (Conq) - Still Only raiding 9 hours a week.

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    I HIGHLY doubt that they'll let that go live lmao. Sword and board top ST dps? sounds totally plausible to me haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopetzki View Post
    I HIGHLY doubt that they'll let that go live lmao. Sword and board top ST dps? sounds totally plausible to me haha
    There are going to be some very mad tanks NINJA!!!

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