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    Sticky: hm.. so all but 1 mm finisher got pvp nerf.. lol....

    hm.. so all but 1 mm finisher got pvp nerf.. lol. because they were critting for 80%-170% of a persons hp pool like other peoples? (that's sarcasm btw.. they definitely were not hard hitting when...
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    same.. expanded torrents inop atm.

    same.. expanded torrents inop atm.
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    not really.. most of the buffs between the...

    not really.. most of the buffs between the support classes are pretty equal, while some of the supporting functions buff the person using them even more, and that each support soul has it's own neat...
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    it hurts us in more than just end game raid...

    it hurts us in more than just end game raid content.. rogue healing.. the lowest of all the classes, as it should be. before it got redone for 1.11 it was soo low you could not solo grind...
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    when looking at the big picture.. lets say your a...

    when looking at the big picture.. lets say your a cleric leveling sl content on the old heal system.. there was absolutely no threat involved.. as cleric leveling is nearly faceroll,

    with the...
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    i say.. it's not too late to right these wrongs.....

    i say.. it's not too late to right these wrongs.. and make the adjustments where they are really needed..

    btw.. am not joking when I say at lvl 50 1.11 I outheal beta lvl 60 bard.., thats how...
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    soo, hammering out a bunch of possible solutions...

    soo, hammering out a bunch of possible solutions to tactician "rotations" for current beta build.

    with le/fervor using the 4 torrent spam rotation system will not work.. you will eventually starve...
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    might need to modify that a bit these days.. with...

    might need to modify that a bit these days.. with the 50% reduction to healing as rogue, and some other tweaks. torrent primer is improved though, (yay!)
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    oh, and did you look at that other thread, about...

    oh, and did you look at that other thread, about how the + to % healing wasn't effecting some heals, and how other heals seem to not be effected by anything other than the character's actual level...
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    hm.. well.. I would disagree.. the impact of not...

    hm.. well.. I would disagree.. the impact of not having proper st healing in raid was people wiping over and over again.. I could see how this may not hold true for a few bosses of t1 raid content...
  11. I suspect it has something to do with the...

    I suspect it has something to do with the wrecking ball of a nerf that hit rogue healing, and w/e absurd concept that stemmed from...
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    @Ailion... ...

    @Ailion...

    http://beta.forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?t=6409

    i'm sorry.. but this literally puts bard right back where it was for the last year +.. a nearly useless pack mule buff bot who's...
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    a bunch of other issues also ruin using anything...

    a bunch of other issues also ruin using anything other than torrents.. like the fact that regardless of st or aoe, torrents still>bolts/rays in dps/hps.

    I suppose you could think of empyprean bolt...
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    Bard issues as of beta 3

    noticing, among many other changes.. and ill advised nerfing.. that Chord of Inspiration does not ever critically heal?

    it also seems that MoR is not now receiving benefit from any + to heal %...
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    calm down guys.. lol.. never seen soo many people...

    calm down guys.. lol.. never seen soo many people angry for underperforming with broken souls.

    dont worry.. atrius is whittling temp down, a bit at a time. imo, while warrior may easily dominate...
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    Pretty sure it is for both. You seem to...

    Pretty sure it is for both.

    You seem to overreact to fixing what is obviously broken in that soul.

    Are you not capable of getting good parses with it? Or are you simply attempting to protect...
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    10K from our wars Thursday night.. when we raid. ...

    10K from our wars Thursday night.. when we raid. 7.2 was day 1 of public beta 3 , this last Friday, don't worry, atrius is getting as and vids of it as soon as I get back, wasn't hard to do.

    You...
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    Out of town atm, but is this true? Primer...

    Out of town atm, but is this true? Primer functioning as a ray finisher to proc primer amplification? I spoke with ailion about this as one of the changes that would be needed, as well as reasons for...
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    7.2k st dps in greens at 50... Trash tempest is...

    7.2k st dps in greens at 50... Trash tempest is not. 10k st dps as melee in id with live wariors.. vs rogue at 6-6.5k... Nope.. nothing imbalanced there.
  20. yeah. cadence does more than that at 50 with a...

    yeah. cadence does more than that at 50 with a better spec, but with all the massively higher dps and a ton of healing tools already in tact.. why use cadence at all?, especially without MO on it.....
  21. yeah.. the changes Iv'e seen today, ontop of...

    yeah.. the changes Iv'e seen today, ontop of reducing my level down (but still higher than the same toon on live) was that most abilities are hitting for less dmg than on live, despite being a higher...
  22. torrents> all rays.. so um.. why would you use...

    torrents> all rays.. so um.. why would you use rays?
  23. ^^ ignore that, while cadence does more healing,...

    ^^ ignore that, while cadence does more healing, in any form , than the procs from empyrean bolt spam, it still has reduced range, no aoe component in that form, AND, is not even needed, as well as...
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    we are talking about the game currently on live,...

    we are talking about the game currently on live, not beta.. and yes.. if for some insane reason you did not pick up the ~8 points in tact for massive self healing ability, doing bard+ enough in mm...
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    that's the whole point.. with no points spent at...

    that's the whole point.. with no points spent at all in tempest even a warrior starts at 30m, and like mm, 5 points for them extends 5m, on top of how BM is played as support, they have more range...
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