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    So you think it is more dps to have SoD use the...

    So you think it is more dps to have SoD use the stacks so it would like like this...

    5 points. SoD>spike>4 pts>DD>Fiery Strike, Fiery Strike?
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    5 points>SoD>pt>blitz>5 points>DD>Strike>Strike?...
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    @Gery.. I was comparing the % difference in...

    @Gery..

    I was comparing the % difference in performance between 61 NB and 61 BD and 51 NB and 51 BD.

    a ~2% difference ST for me became ~4%. I suppose it could be a scaling thing though
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    Try Bladedancer. It looks like the nerf may have...

    Try Bladedancer. It looks like the nerf may have kicked quick and precision strike in the teeth. I was rushed in testing though (wife aggro) so if someone could confirm or deny.

    Additionally if...
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    I think SoD needs to stay that way else it would...

    I think SoD needs to stay that way else it would unbalance pre 60 NB.
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    And that's fine. What irks me is this. Some of...

    And that's fine. What irks me is this. Some of us are on beta paying attention to the actual changes, the whys and such, not just looking at the pretty scenery. A change which was obvioulsy in...
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    Well Ailion stated that the game was balanced...

    Well Ailion stated that the game was balanced around 51 point as well as 61 point builds. If this is the case then there is an issue. The only change to NB is the 61 pt ability. After testing the...
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    If Primal really believed that he would not have...

    If Primal really believed that he would not have said what he did on the Live forums. Also your own statement makes my head hurt. basically you are saying that because we have an accurate dev we...
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    Then I need to ask why the prime warrior builds...

    Then I need to ask why the prime warrior builds out dps them? I mean their goal is to have all melee ~ equal right? I am honestly not trying to troll here but I have yet to see a parse where rogues...
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    Another issue How does this effect...

    Another issue



    How does this effect normalization? In original beta people raised the issue of EQ2 where to maximize dps all melee classes looked for weapons with slower attack speeds because...
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    Sticky: Question regarding * Offhand auto-attacks now do 70% less damage.

    I completely understand that something was needed to address the disparity for warriors between DW DPS and 2h. That said there seem to be no changes to deal with the hit to rogue dps. Rogues were...
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    Well that does work. Rotation just becomes 5...

    Well that does work. Rotation just becomes 5 pts>Dark Descent>SoD>Flame Strike…

    Would be nice for Ebon fury to effect Twlight force though. Maybe...if used with Twilight force applies...
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    From latest patch notes.

    Okay....I know warriors were whining that DW was more dps than 2H but did they stop to think what this would do to a rogue who has no access to 2 handers? Just curious.
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    Mid 30s-41 RS/BD/Tac. Survival is damn good as...

    Mid 30s-41 RS/BD/Tac.

    Survival is damn good as is dps, mobility. I didn't really see a reason to completely reinvent the mouse trap and with the recent change to boosted recovery I think this is...
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    The problem with Tac is that it is not your...

    The problem with Tac is that it is not your positioning that is important but rather your raid's that is important. They basically have created a soul that would not be able to fullfill it's duty on...
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    True. Here is the issue though. The lion's...

    True. Here is the issue though. The lion's share of the healing of a Tactician soul comes from their torrents. This is highly situational. To many of us, to be what Ailion called a "raid healing...
  16. I actually prefer this. I spent hours and hordes...

    I actually prefer this. I spent hours and hordes of plat decorating houses in EQ2. What killed me about it though is I had no yard, etc. The Shimmersand dimension is almost my ideal though of what...
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    I really think the Tactician is going to be...

    I really think the Tactician is going to be Rift's version of the "swimming" Sherman tank in WWII. It worked great in the calm lakes of England. The minute it hit the choppy waters of the English...
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    And I have no real issue with this. My issue is...

    And I have no real issue with this. My issue is with the inconsistency between statements and actions. That is all tbh. If you keep saying "X was nerfed for the benefit of Y, the specialist at...
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    Ailion, for the sake of argument I will grant you...

    Ailion, for the sake of argument I will grant you this point. The issue still remains however how this effects the Tactician as a raid healer. As much as the torrent/beam mechanic works in theory...
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    I am not saying it wasn't nerfed, of course it...

    I am not saying it wasn't nerfed, of course it was. I just find it off when people complain about raid performance when the number they note does not even reflect raid ready gear. It would be like...
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    I am pretty sure they purchased rights to use and...

    I am pretty sure they purchased rights to use and simply use a HEAVILY modified version. Think of it like a Ford in Nascar. But the foundation is still Gamebryo.
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    What gear do you have? Cloro has issues but I...

    What gear do you have? Cloro has issues but I was getting 24 ticks on Veil with a completely beta buffed Mage with only a little over 900sp. That would not be what I would call a good metric to...
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    Yes we have more than 5 minute edits here. :) ...

    Yes we have more than 5 minute edits here. :)

    Aguni I get that point. My belief is no one is going to say bring more rogues because of that magically added raid healing. A raid doesn't say...
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    He made the statement after the nerf. I edited...

    He made the statement after the nerf. I edited my post to reflect this. The additional nerf to bard was to make room for the healing specialist tactician so "changing one's mind" does not apply to...
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    Ummmm when he referred to Tac he listed it as a...

    Ummmm when he referred to Tac he listed it as a "raid healing" comparing it directly to warden and cloro just yesterday....



    Gersh also called tac/bard a "competitive raid healing soul" in the...
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